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Posted 03 October 2005 - 04:42 PM

Liverpool legend Alan Hansen has branded critics knocking Chelsea's Premiership domination as "crazy".

Chelsea extended their lead at the top of the table with a 4-1 defeat of Hansen's former side on Sunday, making it eight wins from eight league games.

"Anyone who continues to bang on about 'boring Chelsea' is crazy," said Hansen, now a BBC Sport expert.

Blues boss Jose Mourinho has demanded his side receive more respect, and Hansen claims detractors are "jealous".

"Those who prefer to carp go on about Chelsea's money - there is a tinge of jealousy in this," said Hansen.


Read Alan Hansen's column in full

"Money does not equate to success unless it is used wisely and there is a hunger and desire in the camp.

"Huge sums of money do not necessarily mean hard work - in some cases it can mean the opposite.

"But you watch those Chelsea players when the chips are down like places at Anfield and they are burning with desire, hunger and determination."

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 04:46 PM

Bottom line is Chelsea wouldn't have won without the money.

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 05:32 PM

And? Will this be the line of Arsenal and Man Utd for the next 100 years with their bottom lip stuck out? 'Cos it's getting more boring than ever now. Townsend has also said today the same sort of thing as Hansen. Essentially, have some respect for a great team, and instead of just plain whingeing, raise your game.

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (StepoverMaster @ Oct 3 2005, 05:46 PM)
Bottom line is Chelsea wouldn't have won without the money.


And Man Utd wouldn't have been half as successful without their money :meeting:

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 07:40 PM

Arsenal have done well without the funds smile.gif

and Chelsea are boring furious.gif

4-8 place was their relistic Premiership finish before their infinite funds

This post has been edited by Ryan Colaco: 03 October 2005 - 07:44 PM


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Posted 03 October 2005 - 07:55 PM

money isnt everything, for Jose Mourinho to get his team to win 4.1 against a team 5 days earlier who out played them is something. Chelsea may have he players but it needs someone to orgainise it

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE (Ryan Colaco @ Oct 3 2005, 08:40 PM)
Arsenal have done well without the funds  smile.gif

and Chelsea are boring  furious.gif

4-8 place was their relistic Premiership finish before their infinite funds


Boring? Dull? Lack passion? Long ball team? Shut the f*ck up!

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:05 PM

I agree with Jim - I'm sick of people jumping onto the 'Chelsea are boring' bandwagon. Yes, they seem to be unstoppable, but you can't call Sunday's performance, boring.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 02:29 PM

And Man Utd wouldn't have been half as successful without their money

Very true. But, unlike Chelsea, alot of our players have come from the youth system. Chelsea can be boring, Jim admitted it, although they definitely weren't on Sunday, but Liverpool still had more possession as far as I can remember. I just don't like the fact that they've had to spend 250m on players to win the Premiership. Bottom line is, I don't like the way they have spent tons of cash to get to where they are. But, I guess you have to give the players credit for gelling together.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 02:32 PM

Man Utd - had some excellent talent come from (Neville, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham) which was enough to win them the league in my view. Also signed Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. Fergusons signings haven't always been good but he has signed some excellent talent in his time. Lets not forget either, Roy Keane was one of the main reasons they won the league. And of course Schmeical (spelling) is the best keeper to ever play in the Premiership. Also had a defence as tight as a nuns crotch. But at least United lost a game or two, Chelsea don't even lose. thumbdown.gif

Arsenal - Wenger rarely makes a mistake in the transfer market. Also got Arsenal playing some beautiful football and went 49 games unbeaten.

Fact is - Chelsea are the big guns now. It'll be interesting to see who can stop the reign. Man Utd just need 1 or 2 more players and Arsenal should have never sold Paddy V.

I think Chelsea will lose this season. They might get injuries, if they were to win every game, and not even draw then that'd be very sad for English football. United must stop them (Never thought id say that). Can they though?

This post has been edited by Sayward: 04 October 2005 - 02:34 PM


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Posted 04 October 2005 - 02:43 PM

Hey I always hate people who won't admit to the truth even if they dislike it, so to be fair, yeah on Sunday they played the way they should be in every game. It was a great game, a good performance and a deserved win, you can't criticise anything. But I stand by my two main claims that

A) Roman is monopolising the Premiership, it's wrong, it's detrimental to every English League and will kill the game

B) As a generalisation across all 8 games so far, they HAVE been boring! One entertaining performance doesn't make them the Cirque du Soleil though!


In the same way people just put this down to jelousy (Jim, Max, SOAD, etc) and ignore every point I try to make, you could counter claim that the jealousy remark is being bandied about simply because people don't want to admit whats staring them in the face and make it OUR problem not theirs. I'm not saying every Manchester United and Arsenal fan is like that, and some are just jealous of it but if football bothers you that much, you need more hobbies! Generally the ones who say it out of jealousy don't even know what the problems with it all are, they do just see someone else being successfull and sulk.

At the same time though Chelsea fans need to wake up and realise they ARE having a detrimental effect, no ones blaming the players, the club and fans don't 'deserve' the success in the same way as it's come from luck really and not hard graft, and frankly it's time they stop swanning round like the greatest thing to happen to football since someone said "I know, if we stick a bloody great big wooden frame with a net on it there, it'll make things much easier!" I think that's why a lot of these twats that hate chelsea but can't give a valid reason why act the way they do, they're just fed up with Chelsea fans acting like they've acheived more than Arsenal and United did. It's all about being a bit respectful.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (ArsenalFc @ Oct 4 2005, 03:43 PM)
Hey I always hate people who won't admit to the truth even if they dislike it, so to be fair, yeah on Sunday they played the way they should be in every game. It was a great game, a good performance and a deserved win, you can't criticise anything. But I stand by my two main claims that

A) Roman is monopolising the Premiership, it's wrong, it's detrimental to every English League and will kill the game

B) As a generalisation across all 8 games so far, they HAVE been boring! One entertaining performance doesn't make them the Cirque du Soleil though!


In the same way people just put this down to jelousy (Jim, Max, SOAD, etc) and ignore every point I try to make, you could counter claim that the jealousy remark is being bandied about simply because people don't want to admit whats staring them in the face and make it OUR problem not theirs. I'm not saying every Manchester United and Arsenal fan is like that, and some are just jealous of it but if football bothers you that much, you need more hobbies! Generally the ones who say it out of jealousy don't even know what the problems with it all are, they do just see someone else being successfull and sulk.

At the same time though Chelsea fans need to wake up and realise they ARE having a detrimental effect, no ones blaming the players, the club and fans don't 'deserve' the success in the same way as it's come from luck really and not hard graft, and frankly it's time they stop swanning round like the greatest thing to happen to football since someone said "I know, if we stick a bloody great big wooden frame with a net on it there, it'll make things much easier!" I think that's why a lot of these twats that hate chelsea but can't give a valid reason why act the way they do, they're just fed up with Chelsea fans acting like they've acheived more than Arsenal and United did. It's all about being a bit respectful.

Exactly :thbup: . The last match was good, but it was not the Chelsea we usually see. A few days prior to that match they faced Liverpool, same opponents (bar one change) in the same stadium (with a couple more thousand in) and yet they were content with sitting back, doing nothing and generally playing in the “boring” style we have become accustomed to under Jose and Chelsea. Most of the Chelsea’s performances this season has been bull, you need to judge on the majority, not one game, and the majority of performances says that Chelsea have not played like that all of the time, quiet to opposite in fact.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:03 PM

Quick! Edit your post and throw a compliment in there or you'll be accused of jealousy

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:05 PM

And our money we earned. Through hard work and perseverence. Ferguson didn't get the money when he first started out. He had to earn it. He made us a big club, a good team etc.

Mourinho did not. Abramovich has done everything for Chelsea.

And Russian obligarchs have no place in football. Now I can't even hold onto the sweet possibility that Roman will get arrested because he's sold his god damn company dam.gif

I'm not going to respect a team that was bought, their success bought bar one title in 1955 and an FA cup or two. I'm sick of the fact that we and Arsenal have earned the title. We've started out just like Tottenham, just like Sunderland. Worse than Liverpool. And we've dragged ourself to the top. Chelsea have bought their way to the top...

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:09 PM

Chelsea play great football, best out of all teams at the moment I'd say. Yes, they have infinite funds but you need to build a good organised squad. If you look at their squad, it's not just world stars: Duff, Joey Cole, Gallas, Del Horno, Gudjohnsen, Essien, Wright-Phillips, Carvalho. They're not as big as for example Paul Scholes, or Zidane, Beckham, Carlos, Ronaldo but they play well as a team and that's what matters.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (Sergio Ramos @ Oct 4 2005, 03:09 PM)
Chelsea play great football, best out of all teams at the moment I'd say. Yes, they have infinite funds but you need to build a good organised squad. If you look at their squad, it's not just world stars: Duff, Joey Cole, Gallas, Del Horno, Gudjohnsen, Essien, Wright-Phillips, Carvalho. They're not as big as for example Paul Scholes, or Zidane, Beckham, Carlos, Ronaldo but they play well as a team and that's what matters.


Yet their team was bought. And they play boring, defensive football.

4-5-1 is never fun...

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:16 PM

Yes, but spending that much money and totally cancelling out anybody else's chances of winning the title is one of the reasons the Premiership has been made boring. When Arsenal and us were dominating, it was still interesting. Football is about competition, and there is none, because Chelsea have destroyed it with their spending. Its a fact, and you have to open your eyes to that.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE (StepoverMaster @ Oct 4 2005, 04:13 PM)
QUOTE (Sergio Ramos @ Oct 4 2005, 03:09 PM)
Chelsea play great football, best out of all teams at the moment I'd say. Yes, they have infinite funds but you need to build a good organised squad. If you look at their squad, it's not just world stars: Duff, Joey Cole, Gallas, Del Horno, Gudjohnsen, Essien, Wright-Phillips, Carvalho. They're not as big as for example Paul Scholes, or Zidane, Beckham, Carlos, Ronaldo but they play well as a team and that's what matters.


Yet their team was bought. And they play boring, defensive football.

4-5-1 is never fun...


Unless Frank Rijkaard or Zdenek Zeman is the manager of course. I don't subscribe to this "Chelsea bought the Championship" talk, but they do, generally looking at the whole breadth of their performances, not singling out any particular matches, play tedious football

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:19 PM

QUOTE (CC @ Oct 4 2005, 03:17 PM)
QUOTE (StepoverMaster @ Oct 4 2005, 04:13 PM)
QUOTE (Sergio Ramos @ Oct 4 2005, 03:09 PM)
Chelsea play great football, best out of all teams at the moment I'd say. Yes, they have infinite funds but you need to build a good organised squad. If you look at their squad, it's not just world stars: Duff, Joey Cole, Gallas, Del Horno, Gudjohnsen, Essien, Wright-Phillips, Carvalho. They're not as big as for example Paul Scholes, or Zidane, Beckham, Carlos, Ronaldo but they play well as a team and that's what matters.


Yet their team was bought. And they play boring, defensive football.

4-5-1 is never fun...


Unless Frank Rijkaard or Zdenek Zeman is the manager of course. I don't subscribe to this "Chelsea bought the Championship" talk, but they do, generally looking at the whole breadth of their performances, not singling out any particular matches, play tedious football



They bought the league. They bought the players, they bought Mourinho, and they bought the fickle glory hunters to sit in their stadium.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 03:24 PM

No offence, but you sound like the bigots who used to/still do hate United saying their stadium is full of glory hunters etc...

They did not buy the title; the title is not there to be bought. Jose wanted to move to expand his already incredible success at Porto. It’s all well and good buying the players, but you need to do it, and they did it, in a less than pleasing fashion.

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