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Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:09 AM

I was bored, so I searched for the overall trophy tally won by the top 15 English football teams. Here are the overall standings:1. Liverpool - 582. Manchester United - 553. Arsenal - 394. Tottenham Hotspur - 245. Everton - 246. Aston Villa - 227. Chelsea - 178. Manchester City - 139. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1310. Newcastle United - 1211. Nottingham Forest - 1112. Blackburn Rovers - 1113. Leeds United - 914. Sunderland - 915. Sheffield Wednesday - 9
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:29 AM

That's a Champions League spot for Spurs! tongue.gif
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:57 AM

^I was actually thinking. If Tottenham have one golden decade, just one, somewhat similar to United's or Liverpool's, they could seriously close in on us. I think Chelsea will slowly work their way across Aston Villa though, that sounds more realistic.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:08 AM

I thought Everton would have more than what they have.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 09:48 AM

It's not accurate working it out this way, is it better for a club to have won...say..20 League Cups than 19 European Cups?
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 10:33 AM

QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was bored, so I searched for the overall trophy tally won by the top 15 English football teams. Here are the overall standings:1. Liverpool - 582. Manchester United - 553. Arsenal - 394. Tottenham Hotspur - 245. Everton - 246. Aston Villa - 227. Chelsea - 178. Manchester City - 139. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1310. Newcastle United - 1211. Nottingham Forest - 1112. Blackburn Rovers - 1113. Leeds United - 914. Sunderland - 915. Sheffield Wednesday - 9
And what are you counting as trophies? I've seen some pretty laughable "honours" on wikipedia including some vote as world team of the year in a soccer magazine! I'd definitely discount Charity Shields and Intertoto Cups, not sure if the UEFA Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup or Club World Championship is really worthy of being included alongside competitions that took a lot more games to win. I doubt they'd seriously influence the order, some of the more mickey mouse trophies appear to be heavy influencesIncluding only Top flight league titles, FA Cups, League Cups and the European Cup, Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Cup ie major trophies that require more than one or two games to win :-MAJOR DOMESTIC/EUROPEAN TROPHIES01. Liverpool 40 (L18, FAC 7, LC 7, EUR 5+3)02. Man Utd 34 (L17, FAC 11, LC 2, EUR 3+1)03. Arsenal 26 (L13, FAC 10, LC 2, EUR 0+1)04. Aston Villa 20 (L7, FAC 7, LC 5, EUR 1+0)05. Tottenham 17 (L2, FAC 8, LC 4, EUR 0+3)06. Everton 15 (L9, FAC 5, LC 0, EUR 0+1)07. Chelsea 13 (L3, FAC 4, LC 4, EUR 0+2)08. Newcastle 10 (L4, FAC 6, LC 0)09. Blackburn 10 (L3, FAC 6, LC 1)10. Wolves 9 (L3, FAC 4, LC 2)11. Man City 9 (L2, FAC 4, LC 2, EUR 0+1)12. Notts Forest 9 (L1, FAC 2, LC 4, EUR 2+0)13. Sunderland 8 (L6, FAC 2, LC 0)14. Sheff Wed 8 (L4, FAC 3, LC 1)15. West Brom 7 (L1, FAC 5, LC 1)KEY : L=League, FAC=FA Cup, LC=League Cup, EUR= European Cups + UEFA Cups/Cup Winners CupsI'd probably weight more towards league titles and European Cups, that would shift forest up and Sunderland too. Counting only league titles and European Cups combined :-01. Liverpool 23 (18/5)02. Man Utd 20 (17/3)03. Arsenal 13 (13/0)04. Everton 9 (9/0)05. Aston Villa 8 (7/1)06. Sunderland 6 (6/0)07. Newcastle 4 (4/0)08. Sheff Wed 4 (4/0)09. Notts Forest 3 (1/2)10. Chelsea 3 (3/0)11. Blackburn 3 (3/0)12. Wolves 3 (3/0)13. Leeds Utd 3 (3/0)14. Huddersfield 3 (3/0)An interesting note, English clubs have now won the European cup 11 times - level with Spain and Italy.EUROPEAN CUPS BY COUNTRY11 England, Italy, Spain6 Germany, Holland4 Portugal1 Scotland, France, Yugoslavia, RomaniaEUROPEAN TROPHIES BY COUNTRY (EUROPEAN CUP/UEFA CUP & CUP WINNERS CUP)27 Italy25 England23 Spain17 Germany11 Holland6 Portugal4 Belgium3 Scotland2 Sweden, Russia, Ukraine1 Yugoslavia, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Georgia, TurkeyWhile Pratini may complain at English dominance, we used to dominate Europe let alone the one competition. Now we seem to be less dominant in the UEFA CupUEFA Cup/Cup Winners Cup 1961-1985 : winners x10, runners-up x6UEFA Cup/Cup Winners Cup 1986-2008 : winners x4, runners-up x3European Cup 1986-2008 : winners x3, runners-up x3European Cup 1956-1985 : winners x8, runners-up x2The European Cups are fairly consistent, taking into account the ban 1956-1985 is about twice the number of seasons. UEFA Cup and Cup Winners Cup didn't start until the 1960/61 and 1971/72 seasons respectively. So those time periods are roughly equal, although there is one less competition since the CWC was stopped after Lazio won it in 1999, there were/are only two domestic cups to win. England has had three teams in the UEFA Cup final since and including Arsenal in 2000, five teams in the Champions league final since and including Liverpool in 2005. Maybe a reflection on the 'big four' and money, but the UEFA Cup teams don't do themselves justice and some see it as a burden rather than a privilege
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:42 AM

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (Owzat @ Mar 17 2009, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And what are you counting as trophies? I've seen some pretty laughable "honours" on wikipedia including some vote as world team of the year in a soccer magazine! I'd definitely discount Charity Shields and Intertoto Cups, not sure if the UEFA Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup or Club World Championship is really worthy of being included alongside competitions that took a lot more games to win. I doubt they'd seriously influence the order, some of the more mickey mouse trophies appear to be heavy influences
As long as it is a recognized tournament, whats the big deal? Its STILL an official trophy to win, so it should count as a trophy tally. In any case, even if you werent to consider Charity Shields or Super Cups, it wont change the balance much since the big seven remain the same way they are overall, with a few switches between Tottenham and Aston Villa, etc. But really, how could you NOT consider the World Club Cup? I know and I agree that the formatting is pathetic, however, you still get to be called "World Champions". Its like a confederations cup yet I don't see people discounting Brazil or other nations from winning them.
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Including only Top flight league titles, FA Cups, League Cups and the European Cup, Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Cup ie major trophies that require more than one or two games to win :-MAJOR DOMESTIC/EUROPEAN TROPHIES01. Liverpool 40 (L18, FAC 7, LC 7, EUR 5+3)02. Man Utd 34 (L17, FAC 11, LC 2, EUR 3+1)03. Arsenal 26 (L13, FAC 10, LC 2, EUR 0+1)04. Aston Villa 20 (L7, FAC 7, LC 5, EUR 1+0)05. Tottenham 17 (L2, FAC 8, LC 4, EUR 0+3)06. Everton 15 (L9, FAC 5, LC 0, EUR 0+1)07. Chelsea 13 (L3, FAC 4, LC 4, EUR 0+2)
Pratically the same big seven as I had in my own list, with a few switches between Everton, Villa and Spurs. But Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United remain in their same positions.
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08. Newcastle 10 (L4, FAC 6, LC 0)09. Blackburn 10 (L3, FAC 6, LC 1)10. Wolves 9 (L3, FAC 4, LC 2)11. Man City 9 (L2, FAC 4, LC 2, EUR 0+1)12. Notts Forest 9 (L1, FAC 2, LC 4, EUR 2+0)13. Sunderland 8 (L6, FAC 2, LC 0)14. Sheff Wed 8 (L4, FAC 3, LC 1)15. West Brom 7 (L1, FAC 5, LC 1)KEY : L=League, FAC=FA Cup, LC=League Cup, EUR= European Cups + UEFA Cups/Cup Winners Cups
Im sorry but Id rather have Leeds in that list than to add West Bromwich in, considering Leeds won something European if Im not mistaken.
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I'd probably weight more towards league titles and European Cups, that would shift forest up and Sunderland too. Counting only league titles and European Cups combined :-01. Liverpool 23 (18/5)02. Man Utd 20 (17/3)03. Arsenal 13 (13/0)04. Everton 9 (9/0)05. Aston Villa 8 (7/1)06. Sunderland 6 (6/0)07. Newcastle 4 (4/0)08. Sheff Wed 4 (4/0)09. Notts Forest 3 (1/2)10. Chelsea 3 (3/0)11. Blackburn 3 (3/0)12. Wolves 3 (3/0)13. Leeds Utd 3 (3/0)14. Huddersfield 3 (3/0)
That doesnt look right. By European Cups I suppose you mean Champions League. But really, having Huddersfield instead of Tottenham looks plain old ugly. In my opinion, that list I first put down was ultimately the best list to determine the powerhouses of football in England. Because West Bromwich and Huddersfield certainly arent.Your first list was also good, bar the fact you somehow skipped Leeds UTD from the list and - instead - placed West Brom in it. As for your last list, I hope it was a joke including Huddersfield and giving no regard to Tottenham, a team which won 3 European titles (albeit not Champions League).So in conclusion, I think the big seven should be:Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United, Aston Villa, Tottenham, Everton and Chelsea(in which ever order you deem fairer than the other, but overall those are the elite lucky sevens)and if we were to include others in, itll certainly be Manchester City, Newcastle UTD, Sunderland, Nottingham Forest, Leeds UTD, Blackburn, Sheffield Wednesday and Wolves.===============================================================================Anyway lets not overcomplicate things. This thread wasnt about who is the most successful club in winning combined trophies or leagues + [insert whatever makes your team look better]. This was about OVERALL trophies won, which is the best way to know who is overall good. The topic title didnt say "15 most successful [league cup + fa cup] teams". It says 15 most successful teams overall.And having someone remove Tottenham or Leeds, and then to add Huddersfield and West Brom instead is a joke. In the end of the day, its all about how many trophies your club has won, not what "type" of trophies they were.In a full premier league season, you judge a team by its overall points, not by who they beat and who they lost to. We could always say,"Yeah sure Manchester United have more points than any other team in the premier league. BUT, they lost 2 times to Liverpool therefore I think Liverpool should be league champions this year". But that wouldnt be fair, because we don't judge teams by the quality or types of one or two factors. We count their overall season's performance, and in the end the team with MOST overall points win, even if they didnt score as many goals as the team in 2nd, even though they lost 2 times to Liverpool, etc.Same thing applies to trophies won. Overall those are the 15 most successful teams.If this thread was about the most successful League champions then Id put Huddersfield in front of Tottenham. But clearly it was about who is OVERALL good.

Edited by Mo., 17 March 2009 - 11:54 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 01:49 PM

League = 10 pointsEuropean Cup/Champions League = 10 pointsFA Cup = 8 pointsCup Winners Cup = 8 pointsUEFA Cup = 7 pointsLeague Cup = 5 pointsWorld Club Cup/Intercontinental Cup = 2 pointsEuropean Super Cup = 2 pointsCharity Shield = 2 pointsSeason in the top flight = 1 pointFollowing that point socring table this is what the all time top flight would be:LiverpoolManchester United ArsenalAston Villa Everton Tottenham Hotspur Chelsea Newcastle United Manchester City Sunderland Blackburn Rovers Sheffield Wednesday Nottingham Forest Wolverhampton Wanderers West Bromich Albion Leeds United Bolton Wanderers Sheffield United Derby County West Ham United With Burnley and Preston falling just short.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:11 PM

^Thats the best representation so far mate.Every trophy deserves being acknowledged so long as its official, but some are worth more than others. So thats a good system there mate.But if theres a way Leeds UTD could make it a bit higher than West Brom I think it would be fairer since Leeds had European success.Anyhow so far its the best list Ive seen... smile.gif
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:32 PM

If i had more time and could be arsed i could have come up with a more elaborate points system taking into account such things as attendances, runner ups, semi finals, etc but i'm pretty sure the same clubs would be in the top 20. The reason Leeds United are so low is because they have had a bit of success in Europe but more often than not as a runner up whilst they have won 5 domestic titles and have been in the top flight for only 50 years compared to WBA 72 years.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:40 PM

QUOTE (Golaccio! @ Mar 17 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If i had more time and could be arsed i could have come up with a more elaborate points system taking into account such things as attendances, runner ups, semi finals, etc but i'm pretty sure the same clubs would be in the top 20. The reason Leeds United are so low is because they have had a bit of success in Europe but more often than not as a runner up whilst they have won 5 domestic titles and have been in the top flight for only 50 years compared to WBA 72 years.
And you certainly did a fine job at that mate, much appreciated! smile.gifAnyhow I don't think attendances or those other factors should be taken into consideration since its all about who won more than the other.Football's about winning the match / competition / etc. Its not about how much you attract, thats just a bonus in my opinion. Having more fans doesnt win you games, its the team play itself. So I think, from a simplistic point of view, a successful team isnt based on its size or stadium capacity, its recognized on its performance and ability to win matches and trophies. So I think those should be the only factors taken into consideration when judging team success; that is, how many trophies were won, and then giving each trophy its own point system to add up.

Edited by Mo., 17 March 2009 - 02:41 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^Thats the best representation so far mate.Every trophy deserves being acknowledged so long as its official, but some are worth more than others. So thats a good system there mate.But if theres a way Leeds UTD could make it a bit higher than West Brom I think it would be fairer since Leeds had European success.Anyhow so far its the best list Ive seen... smile.gif
Wheres the Lancashire cup then? Definatly deserves 10 points tongue.gif .On a serious note, its about right that list. Its good to see we are on it, 11th isn't bad when you think of the sizes of the teams above us, compared to ours. You don't see any other "small" Lancashire town in the top 15 or so anyway, we dominate the place hh.gif .
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:32 PM

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Golaccio! @ Mar 17 2009, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
League = 10 pointsEuropean Cup/Champions League = 10 pointsFA Cup = 8 pointsCup Winners Cup = 8 pointsUEFA Cup = 7 pointsLeague Cup = 5 pointsWorld Club Cup/Intercontinental Cup = 2 pointsEuropean Super Cup = 2 pointsCharity Shield = 2 pointsSeason in the top flight = 1 pointFollowing that point socring table this is what the all time top flight would be:LiverpoolManchester United ArsenalAston Villa Everton Tottenham Hotspur Chelsea Newcastle United Manchester City Sunderland Blackburn Rovers Sheffield Wednesday Nottingham Forest Wolverhampton Wanderers West Bromich Albion Leeds United Bolton Wanderers Sheffield United Derby County West Ham United With Burnley and Preston falling just short.
Thats quite a good way to work it out i think, but one thing i would like to add and im sure some older members would back me up here......but many years ago the F.A Cup was the biggest Cup competition in the world, so teams who won that quite some time ago was say a much bigger acheivement then than say winning a European Cup/Champions League today.The F.A Cup just is'nt valued the same as it used to be.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (FiddyPence @ Mar 17 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Golaccio! @ Mar 17 2009, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
League = 10 pointsEuropean Cup/Champions League = 10 pointsFA Cup = 8 pointsCup Winners Cup = 8 pointsUEFA Cup = 7 pointsLeague Cup = 5 pointsWorld Club Cup/Intercontinental Cup = 2 pointsEuropean Super Cup = 2 pointsCharity Shield = 2 pointsSeason in the top flight = 1 pointFollowing that point socring table this is what the all time top flight would be:LiverpoolManchester United ArsenalAston Villa Everton Tottenham Hotspur Chelsea Newcastle United Manchester City Sunderland Blackburn Rovers Sheffield Wednesday Nottingham Forest Wolverhampton Wanderers West Bromich Albion Leeds United Bolton Wanderers Sheffield United Derby County West Ham United With Burnley and Preston falling just short.
Thats quite a good way to work it out i think, but one thing i would like to add and im sure some older members would back me up here......but many years ago the F.A Cup was the biggest Cup competition in the world, so teams who won that quite some time ago was say a much bigger acheivement then than say winning a European Cup/Champions League today.The F.A Cup just is'nt valued the same as it used to be.
Around the time when Rovers won it 3 times in a row(5 times in 7 years)? We should definatly be higher up then for that alone closedeyes.gif .
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:38 PM

What a load of bollocks, Newcastle haven't won anything ever, remember?
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 12:37 AM

Surely if you are given 1 point for everty year in Top Flight, Everton would be higher, being in the League for 107 years would it not?It depends which cups you want to count and not count to make an accurate analysisThe top 2 are easy with Liverpool 1st and Manchester United 2nd then god knows after that
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 02:08 AM

105 years isn't it mate? And anyway Villa have been in the top flight for 97 years with Liverpool 93 years, Arsenal 91 and Man Utd 83. Obviously Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool have won a lot more cups than you whilst Villa have won 7 league titles, 7 FA cups, 5 League Cups and a European Cup to your 9 league titles, 5 FA cups and a Cup Winners Cup. Thats a big enough gap to overcome your 10 point advantage for being in the top flight longer.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:19 AM

i believe this is our 106th year in top flight football and aston villa's 98th. We are the top 2 in that category so it doesnt matter. Its the most played fixture everton v villa. be interesting to see post-war stats.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Any O'Brien @ Mar 18 2009, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What a load of bollocks, Newcastle haven't won anything ever, remember?
Certainly not in your lifetime, eh? laugh.gif
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:30 PM

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:33 PM

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:40 PM

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:39 PM

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He sure looks happy! laugh.gif
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:50 PM

Newcastle don't half recieve some flack for 'winning f˙ck all' anytime recently but the same has to be said about Villa. I was completely shocked when I seen their honour list the other week, won one league since 1910, haven't won the FA Cup since 1957, before that it was 1920. Won 5 of their leagues before 1900, 3 of their FA Cups before 1900 - yeah, they all count but bloody hell that was a long time ago. I was very surprised when I seen this though, thought they won a lot of their leagues/cups late 70s early 80s.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:59 PM

QUOTE (Liam @ Mar 19 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Newcastle don't half recieve some flack for 'winning f˙ck all' anytime recently but the same has to be said about Villa. I was completely shocked when I seen their honour list the other week, won one league since 1910, haven't won the FA Cup since 1957, before that it was 1920. Won 5 of their leagues before 1900, 3 of their FA Cups before 1900 - yeah, they all count but bloody hell that was a long time ago. I was very surprised when I seen this though, thought they won a lot of their leagues/cups late 70s early 80s.
If we are to judge any team from the 70s to 2000s, the top list would look something like this:1. Liverpool (still)2. Manchester Utd3. ArsenalSo pretty much the 3 big teams still get to keep their places.But then itll be something along the lines of...4. Chelsea5. Everton6. Leeds Utd / Nottingham Forest
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 01:25 AM

Am bored of coursework so anything seems better, so, heres the top teams from each decade using the same points system without the point for a year in the top flight:1870-18791. Wanderers 482. Royal Engineers 163. Oxford University 8= Old Etonians 81880 -18891. Blackburn Rovers 332. Preston North End 19= Aston Villa 8= West Bromwich Albion 8= Blackburn Olimpic 8= Clapham Rovers 8= Old Carthusians 8= Old Etonians 81890-18991. Aston Villa 562. Sunderland 303. Blackburn Rovers 164. Everton 10= Preston 10= Sheffield United 101900-19091. Newcastle United 322. Liverpool 20= The Wednesday 204. Aston Villa 185. Bury 161910-19191. Blackburn Rovers 222. Aston Villa 183. Manchester United 124. Sunderland 10= Everton 101920-19291. Huddersfield Town 402. Bolton Wanderers 243. Liverpool 20= The Wednesday/Sheffield Wednesday 204. Newcastle United 185. Everton 121930-19391. Arsenal 762. Everton 303. Manchester City 20= Sheffield Wednesday 20= Sunderland 201940-19491. Arsenal 12= Portsmouth 123. Liverpool 104. Charlton Athletic 8= Derby County 8= Manchester United 8= Wolverhampton Wanderers 81950-19591. Manchester United 362. Wolverhampton Wanderers 343. Newcastle United 244. Arsenal 205. Chelsea 12= Tottenham Hotspur 121960-19691. Tottenham Hotspur 462. Manchester United 423. Liverpool 324. Everton 20= Manchester City 201970-19791. Liverpool 912. Tottenham Hotspur 413. Nottingham Forest 344. Manchester City 285. Derby County221980-19891. Liverpool 1142. Everton 423. Manchester United 264. Aston Villa 245. Tottenham Hotspur 231990-19991. Manchester United 1172. Arsenal 553. Chelsea 234. Liverpool 205. Tottenham Hotspur 132000-20091. Manchestr United 842. Liverpool 513. Chelsea 504. Arsenal 485. Portsmouth 8

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was bored, so I searched for the overall trophy tally won by the top 15 English football teams. Here are the overall standings:1. Liverpool - 582. Manchester United - 553. Arsenal - 394. Tottenham Hotspur - 245. Everton - 246. Aston Villa - 227. Chelsea - 178. Manchester City - 139. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1310. Newcastle United - 1211. Nottingham Forest - 1112. Blackburn Rovers - 1113. Leeds United - 914. Sunderland - 915. Sheffield Wednesday - 9
overall trophy tally?can't have done- wednesday's overall trophy count includes a cromwell cup, a football aliance, 3 fa cups, 4 league titles, a sherif of london charity sheild, an fa charity sheild a league cup and 14 sheffield fa cups- that's 27unless you mean major trophieswhich would also be wrong with leeds only having 5 of them

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE (wednesday4life @ Apr 3 2009, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was bored, so I searched for the overall trophy tally won by the top 15 English football teams. Here are the overall standings:1. Liverpool - 582. Manchester United - 553. Arsenal - 394. Tottenham Hotspur - 245. Everton - 246. Aston Villa - 227. Chelsea - 178. Manchester City - 139. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1310. Newcastle United - 1211. Nottingham Forest - 1112. Blackburn Rovers - 1113. Leeds United - 914. Sunderland - 915. Sheffield Wednesday - 9
unless you mean major trophies
Obviously he does, whats the point of counting milk trophys and stuff? laugh.gif every team has them don't they? but you probably have'nt took that into consideration.... not that it matters
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:07 PM

QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im sorry but Id rather have Leeds in that list than to add West Bromwich in, considering Leeds won something European if Im not mistaken.
you're mistaken- fairs cups is not recognised by uefa. and rightly so, what with the qualification relying at the start on the city hosting a trade fair................meaning it was not actually a tournament between clubs but citys, then being decided on league position provided the fa wanted you to go- a joke of a trophy, might as well have had players doing an egg and spoon race and presenting them with a trophy (the first one lasted 3 years for fucks sake)
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QUOTE (wednesday4life @ Apr 3 2009, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was bored, so I searched for the overall trophy tally won by the top 15 English football teams. Here are the overall standings:1. Liverpool - 582. Manchester United - 553. Arsenal - 394. Tottenham Hotspur - 245. Everton - 246. Aston Villa - 227. Chelsea - 178. Manchester City - 139. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1310. Newcastle United - 1211. Nottingham Forest - 1112. Blackburn Rovers - 1113. Leeds United - 914. Sunderland - 915. Sheffield Wednesday - 9
unless you mean major trophies
Obviously he does, whats the point of counting milk trophys and stuff? laugh.gif every team has them don't they? but you probably have'nt took that into consideration.... not that it matters
major trophies don't add up either- leeds are on 5 not 9
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QUOTE (wednesday4life @ Apr 3 2009, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was bored, so I searched for the overall trophy tally won by the top 15 English football teams. Here are the overall standings:1. Liverpool - 582. Manchester United - 553. Arsenal - 394. Tottenham Hotspur - 245. Everton - 246. Aston Villa - 227. Chelsea - 178. Manchester City - 139. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1310. Newcastle United - 1211. Nottingham Forest - 1112. Blackburn Rovers - 1113. Leeds United - 914. Sunderland - 915. Sheffield Wednesday - 9
unless you mean major trophies
Obviously he does, whats the point of counting milk trophys and stuff? laugh.gif every team has them don't they? but you probably have'nt took that into consideration.... not that it matters
so why's he have leeds on 9?

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:10 PM

No idea, so this is rated with my quite limited knowledge...1. Manchester United2. Liverpool3. Arsenal4. Everton5. Tottenham6. Chelsea7. Blackburn8. Newcastle9. Leeds10 Nottingham (remember that they won the European Champions Cup beating swedish Malm÷ in the final smile.gif )11-15 NO IDEABy the way if I recall it correctly the 80's ( I was just a little kid then) was quite fun as some "smaller" team surprised and won the league. Is is so that Norwich won one year or am I totally mistaken?
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:14 PM

http://www.krysstal.com/trophies.html

that is the correct trophy standings, I don't know where the hell you got 12 for Wolves from?


If the football league trophy counts then surely we get our Texaco Cups? laugh.gif
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 07:12 PM

oi lads theres this great website for exactly this topic http://www.aboutabal...ngs/ranking.phpmost impotantly it shows west brom are in it smile.gif
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Posted 05 April 2009 - 09:51 AM

I thought they had 9, well according to Wikipedia's finest... laugh.gif
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Posted 10 April 2009 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Mo. @ Mar 17 2009, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was bored, so I searched for the overall trophy tally won by the top 15 English football teams. Here are the overall standings:1. Liverpool - 582. Manchester United - 553. Arsenal - 394. Tottenham Hotspur - 245. Everton - 246. Aston Villa - 227. Chelsea - 178. Manchester City - 139. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1310. Newcastle United - 1211. Nottingham Forest - 1112. Blackburn Rovers - 1113. Leeds United - 914. Sunderland - 915. Sheffield Wednesday - 9
It depends how you want to look at it really. Tottenham might have 24 trophies, but I wouldnt class them as being as successful as Everton or Villa with 2 league titles compared to 9 and 7.
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